Tuesday, January 27, 2009

The Framework for Socialist America: Healthcare

There are many different things that we have allowed and will allow to happen in our country that will lead to it's downfall. Many simply don't think Socialism will come to America. My question is: Why? Why are you so dismissive of that possibility? No one thought our economy could collapse. It is...and in brilliant fashion. If this planet survives long enough, today's America will be used as the example of the downfall of an empire, just as Rome is our example. We refuse to listen to history, or we are simply too arrogant to think that history can happen to us.

Know this...no generation that has let it's nation succumb to socialism has lived to see socialism defeated in it's nation. This is because a government that is given power never relinquishes the power given. If we allow Socialism to take hold here, our grandkids will be lucky to live as freely as we did as children.

Today's example of this slippery slope is healthcare. Universal Healthcare...what a great concept. Of course it would be great to provide healthcare to everyone in the nation. I mean, there are lots of nations that do it, right? France, Britain, Canada, etc. Ask some of the people in those nations what they think of their healthcare, and they'll even tell you that they like their system of healthcare. I know this, because a friend of mine had a job in England surveying people on this very subject.

Of course, all of these people are completely healthy or living with some sort of ailment. Most of these countries provide quite adequate, but not outstanding, healthcare for preventative and normal type of medical issues. But if someone needs some kind of surgery, most also have to wait months, possibly more than a year, to get the surgery done. And so, they are forced to cope with the pain until they are allowed the surgery. And the emergency rooms are nightmares in most of these nations. I'm sure you've heard of areas in England where there is sometimes a 24 hour wait just to be seen in an emergency room.

And then there's the philosophy behind nationalized healthcare. If someone is paying for your health care, they hold the power to tell you what qualifies you to receive health care. In England, people are being told they need to lose weight before they qualify for the national health care...but their options in the free market are limited because nationalized healthcare has squashed any desire for people to participate in the free market. In California, businesses can not sell anything with Trans Fat because it will affect it's citizens on it's state run health care. These businesses have little option aside from closing down altogether. Instead they pay more to produce products with zero Trans Fat and pass the increased cost onto consumers...throughout the nation, as opposed to just California where the regulation caused the increased cost to begin with. This is the anthesis of freedom and capitalism, and it feeds upon itself creating more and more bloating of the socialistic structure.

Do you think that a government paying for healthcare will stay out of a family's personal decision regarding birth control? No, they won't. They will mandate that any person on this Universal Healthcare, which will continue to grow while free market options shrink, will have to have birth control starting at an age they determine, which will almost certainly be even younger than 16. Do you really think that the government peeking into our lives and making family decisions is a good thing?? This is my family, damnit, I'll decide if and when I want my kids on birth control!

Will this create equality in health care?? Nope. Even in these countries where they currently use some form of socialistic health care, those with private health care take precedent over the government sponsered health care. Of course, as I previously stated, private health care will only increase in cost because the government run health care will squeeze out private companies, and the only people that can afford private health care will be the rich and powerful, such as politicians. Interesting how politicians won't have to live under the same rule they are creating...of course they don't now, so not much will change in that aspect.

Right now it's being sold as they will have the same health care as government officials. Do you really think that some schlub who hasn't had a job in 5 years will have access to the same health care as Nancy Pelosi???

Come on people...these progressives...they can't justify things logically...they prey on feelings of fear and insecurity and perceived equality. Before you let them fundamentally change our country, at least make them explain why $600 million dollars worth of Universal Healthcare programs are being snuck into a proposed stimulus bill! Why hide it and try to sneak it in if it's really the best thing for our country?? Pass Universal Healthcare on it's own merits, where logical people can stand up and make you logically explain why a government that runs the DMV or has 30% fraud in Medicare is better than the private system. Because that's the real kind of Universal Health care we will get...one laced with fraud and as much compentency as the Department of Motor Vehicles. Is that what this country deserves? Quite simply: No.

3 comments:

Rocketstar said...

“They will mandate that any person on this Universal Healthcare, which will continue to grow while free market options shrink, will have to have birth control starting at an age they determine, which will almost certainly be even younger than 16.
--- Do you know this for a fact? I don’t think I have ever heard of Euproean countries force teenagers/women to take birth control. They offer it free of charge but force them?

“Do you really think that the government peeking into our lives and making family decisions is a good thing?? This is my family, damnit, I'll decide if and when I want my kids on birth control!”
-- They already do this. The US gov already removes kids from unfit parents/households.

I agree that the gov running anything is not the best solution but what is the answer to be able ot provide the poor or someone who gets cancer and hass their lives devastated by no healthcare or the healthcare bills?

The Mad Hoosier said...

--- Do you know this for a fact? I don’t think I have ever heard of Euproean countries force teenagers/women to take birth control. They offer it free of charge but force them?

Maybe I didn't state this part clearly. This was a prediction of what a government, who currently finds it ok to give middle school children birth control without the parent's consent, would do given time and opportunity to exert its force and power.

-- They already do this. The US gov already removes kids from unfit parents/households.

These are reactive actions taken to protect a person who is having harm done to them. That's different than the government stepping into my life and telling me what decisions I can or should make to raise my kid.

Did you see the article where a family had their children taken away primarily because they named their children Adolph Hitler, Aryan Nation, and Honszlynn Hinler. There were reports of spousal abuse as well, so I don't think the names were the sole reason that the kids were removed. This is very sketchy area for me. To remove kids based on their name??? At the same time, at best, the parents don't have the future of their kids in mind. It's just not so cut and dry to me in this case, and once you make a decision here, it's a slippery slope.

I agree that the gov running anything is not the best solution but what is the answer to be able ot provide the poor or someone who gets cancer and has their lives devastated by no healthcare or the healthcare bills?

To me, these are two different thoughts. The government isn't the best answer...then just stop there. The government isn't the best answer, and they shouldn't be involved. Then we move onto the next thought...what's the best way to be able ot provide the poor or needy? The private sector via charity. Use health care clinics and the like to help those that can't help themselves.

Central Indiana Jobs with Justice said...

The private sector via charity.

Where do you think that most of those clinics get their funding right now? They are certified by the government as community based health clinics. They get federal funding directly and fed funds through the states and county funds already, far exceeding charity donations. So, we're already paying for it in an inefficient manner, letting the insurance companies dictate how providers get paid, how patients get treated, etc. etc.